How do i know that a number given to me on a G15 is ok not fake, has anyone heard anyhing bad about http://www.perfectoutdoorgame.com am about to order some clubs from them. MB101 irons feature no offset, a straight leading . Hope to see you back. They display a 1-866 number on their website but when you try the number all you get is a recorded message and no one ever calls back. Anyone with a strong physique might manage such heavy clubs of course but why suffer poor paintwork and the chance of heads coming off and injuring a child. The newest featured product: V-Foil forged clubs. Driver: Kamui 9.5* Crazy TJ46 Stiff 3W: EGG 15* FE65 Stiff 5W Adams 4555 Tour 19* Ozik Altus LT Stiff 4-PW: Miura Blades KBS Proto Stiff 51-56-60 Miura Custom PX 6.0 Putter: See More m7/m7w Private Reserve Black Ball: Bridgestoen B330 Tour You might try contacting them and see what kind of reply you get. Would be a great post for us to do. United States Individuals that are clearly individuals (feedback 100-400) and not companies. very very good to deal with. The grips logos may also not be aligned properly when the club is sitting at address. i would like to know any thing about a site i think they are fake? Hint number 1 that a buyer should pick up is that the price is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. Iron four D2, Iron five D0, Iron six E1, Iron seven D1, etc. Anyway, you cant buy a golf game, and some of you are apparently too ignorant to learn. I 19:45:04, if I wanted to check them in the brand site would i be able? Very happy with the product Thanks to mygolfspy for excellent website and this specific Forum. Golfskydiscount,Inc. Im normally pretty good at spotting fake sites but these ones are very well polished and look extremely convincing. Beware: Huge influx of fake Miura irons on eBay (especially MC-501) I am a lefty so maybe this protects me a little, but the response to garagesalegolf on ebay is extremely positive and I felt very good about them for that reason. They also have something called greens fork balls and a ball tray. im planning on checking for a serial number and calling callaway to see if the number matches the set. I ordered the Taylormade R9TP irons and was contacted within a few hours by my CC company asking if I had purchased any electronic equipment from Toyontech.com. None of the counterfeit web sites that I have looked at offer left-handed clubs, no. All these companies do not deal with nonsense products and they do deserve the respect and recommendation. : All of our clubs are brand new, 100% from the original factory, with high quality and excellent performance. Whatever brand name you want on a club well put it on. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? If youre going to fire Americans and hire cheap foreign labor, you deserve to get ripped off Nike, Talyor Made, etc. 4) Within the source code of the page there are Chinese comments..checkout line 347: IP Location: -(-) (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[3]='BIRTHDAY';ftypes[3]='birthday';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Pingback: Cleveland Golf Show - 18 Tips for the Cleveland Golf Show, Feb. 16-18, Pingback: 20 Tips for The 2020 Cleveland Golf Show | Feb. 1416 at the IX Center. This ebay store sells the Precise S7 clubs that were made in 2009 by Tartan Sports. They wont even deliver the missing orderDont even approach this guys! They do not have any address on their website showning their physical location ? It has no physical address, some of literature on the website is in pidgin English, telephone number is only for taking orders and amazingly they claim to have sold 10 million sets of clubs. My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). ************************************************************ While I agree countefeits obvioulsly are to be avoided. If thats the case, yes it could be true that they could change the type of metals used to save cost, but it could also be true that they could just as easily make XXX extra units for every XXX amount they produce genuinely, and if thats the case, then those extra clubs would be same quality with either a bogus serial number or even without one,but that would be almost entirely impossible to know for sure. Also, the site didnt have a phone number to contact and the grammar was suspect All of our staffs here are ready to be your service agent. Actually we should have included that for the paintit would be for ones you were looking at in an actual store. b) extra epoxy isnt really indicative of a counterfeit either, because the club could have been reshafted by a hobbiest or a sloppy professional clubmaker. I was wondering if the callaway iron sets on the website link china are real? They let me know that they were definitely counterfeit. Many thanks. Our supplier also provide components to the original brand comanies. The club is noticably heavy becuase of this. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 I never understood why so many mid to high handicap players who play once or twice a week would justify paying the outrageous price that is being charged for these club. Admin Phone Ext. Has anyone ever dealt with a website called: I am very skeptical on this website as the written English looks terrible and there is no sign of their registration with UK companies house on the register. What would you like to know about Hireko RC? They were the Taylormade R9 3 wood and 5 wood, brand new. The 5Banger ~ Mavrik SZ | Motore F3 7x. Counterfeit TaylorMade SpeedBlade Face. Ping G30 irons w/Recoil 95 ns2.ename.cn I posted this in another thread here and a mizuno rep stated these arent fakes. Too many blatant red flags. ClubTest: Testing Miura's new PI-401 irons against our current gamers Stop asking about reputeable sites! Are these legitimate? Im not saying you need to buy the expensive name brands. I have purchased equipment from EBay, Hurricane Golf, TGW, Golfio and Rock Bottom Golf. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. : He is not on the Adams authorized list. Guess what? This is ridiculous! Miura makes another set with the font style of the numbers this way. Who knows what is happening to your information? Thank you so much for interesting in our clubs and website. Stitching on the lettering and branding will be of poor quality. I bought a set of r9 supertri irons from there on Halloween, arrived very soon. Maybe they should be more reasonable with their markupsand stop trying to sell me stuff I dont need as soon as I walk in the door. Email : Billing Contact: On many of the newer Taylormade drivers and fairway woods, the real serial number will be very light colored gray writing. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Good idea for a post. NS26.DOMAINCONTROL.COM, Hey Pat G. what do you say about http://www.mysurbuy.com. $500.00. My golf buddies joke about having the clubs labeled as TayrorMade or Carraway since its for the Japan market. So, because it is too expensive to pay American workers and use American materials, the Chinese economy will reap the bulk of the benefit of the golf club manufacturing market (excepting U.S. marketing and sales reps, etc. I know these are older irons, so did Miura have a time when they did not stamp GENUINE on the necks? Miura's USP is their superior feel. Wondering if this is selling fake products. Do not buy anything from this site. I say this because Ive bought from other eBay shops that simply toss the club in the box with no padding and ship it off (and they wonder why they get complaints about damaged clubs). Overall Im now fully expecting a fake club to arrive at which point Ill have to go through pay pal and try and get it returned/refunded. ITs all true about buying cheap clubs. The Most Insane Golf Blog Contest Ever!, WIN $420 of Free Money by Commenting on This Post, CONTEST! I fell victim to golfsales365 in the past few days only when my bank fraud unit raised the alarm did I even think that there could be a problem I have been offered a 90% refund following instant cancellation of the order (they first offered me 80 I agreed but politely requested a copy of the carrier invoice they claimed contributed to their loss of course they have suffered none but I guess my stupidity warrants a small learning payment, My idea to severely dent the amount of people who fall for this is to contact the legitimate sites we have done business with and ask them to post a prominent link to this list on their home pages, Anyone heard of http://www.golfsuper18.com, Hi everyone, i would like to get a set of iron Callaway, and I found a website that seems to be honest, but we never know, I would like to get your advice on that. 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Miura Golf - Dealer Locator and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! To revive this thread i was wondering if anyone can give any input into this set that is listed locally. I even played a round of golf with one of the reps from the store and even he could not tell the difference in performance wise between the real or fake ones. Has anyone any comment about the quality of the products they supply. I know it fosters research and development in many fields, and encourages companies to improve products and technology. Registrant Organization: Chen Sun I contacted my credit card company and explained what happened. . Cheers We carefully hand-select every clubs to make sure that our customers will receive the best golf clubs. Their prices are incredible. Thanks! Are they genuine. Awesome information. Prices just dont seem right. He got the package from UPS what I saw. Busted: Nearly 10,000 counterfeit golf clubs seized in China - Golfweek Odyssey Dear oh dear Matt, you need help. Those golfers who have to have the authentic clubs with matching serial numbers and think that will improve thier game , go to your pro shop and get your clubs , and rest easy , Those of you who will buy on ebay take a chance , those of you who want the real thing and try a chinese wbsite , good luck with that , and dont bitch about it later . I 00:18:39 Id like to check them out. Young man that started the company went to Purdue University and was a fraternity brother of a friend of mines son. ns5.store.yahoo.com The things that scare me are: - $110 shipping for 3 heads, seems really excessive. Daisy 00:13:10 The only reason I even attempted to buy clubs from them was because they were one of the only places that had a discontinued model of irons (TaylorMade Burner 2.0s in black finish) that I so desperately wanted. I have received the $100 refund which means that I own the woods for less than $35 each which, as I mentioned earlier, I was satisfied with as far as performance. Anyway no doubt you will find holes in this, but I urge you to put your ego aside and humbly admit you may not have all the facts on this one? Package broken when received? What should I look for, how can I find out if these are counterfeit assembly parts? Verry cheeep, Did you get any feedback on this? I gave them heaps on the live chat and emailed for refund no luck! Hi I have recently found the titelist AP2 iron set that i bought from WOWgolf clubs, now http://www.cheapgolfforsale.com/ to be fake. The clubs tested very well. All dead give always that they are SCAMMERS! I now own 2 TaylorMade R9 farway woods for $68.50 that are almost identical to the authenic clubs, but I am still trying to shut the seller down. My only concern is that some of the clubs are stamped with the GENUINE on the neck, and some of them are not. Have you heard anything about this site? And the manufacturers charge what the market will pay. http://www.globalgolf.com I presume the user of such a term is trying to imply that they have got hold of some clubs that were made by the real manufacturer but have been secured at special price in a special deal. If it seems like it might be coming from a questionable seller, or the price is too good to be true, could almost guarantee it's fake. And again, just because a serial number doesnt check out with an American manufacturer doesnt mean its FAKE For example Mizuno (USA) only serializes their clubs when they reach the USA. I have seen plenty of 501 fakes. Admin Postal Code: 351100 If they were professionally built then the seller should be able to provide a receipt showing who built them and cost. I 00:17:18 Can you order me a full set of Titleist woods and irons, some Vokey wedges and a Scotty Cameron putter and Ill pay you later when I next see you in the street. They claim that they sell Authentic clubs but I want to know for sure. If you read it with a Chinese accent, all will become abundantly clear. Select Grip: Golf Pride Tour Wrap When my club pro put it beside an original Ping G15 every font and color was different throughout the entire club. (note: an obvious sign of fake R9 clubs from China is when they do not offer KBS shafts which are standard run a mile when they say no KBS!). Here is the whois info for them. If I buy sale clubs from well known outlets like TGW EDWIN WATTS GOLFSMITH, can I be sure Im getting genuine clubs? This section will be dedicated to the differences between the way companies put serial numbers on their clubs and how to help spot counterfeit clubs. If you have already paid for clubs how do you get a refund Listed without the pics of the soles. Just wondering how you found your clubs from golfshop365.com. Here is my assessment of the clubs that I posted on their website: Ordered a set of the Tour Response 950s (Cleveland CG7 clones) the day they were available. fuzhou fujian 350000 Register.Com Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway ID theft SUCKS!! As an example, Titleist and Mizuno normally use a longer ferrule, but almost all the ferrules on counterfeit irons are shorter. P.S. Brand List General Points TaylorMade . I have been checking hundreds of online golf equipment stores in the past couple weeks and used the Taylor Made site to check out the legit ones (i hope). tel: Thats when I started researching fake sites. What can you tell me about Discounts for Golf? Original Equipment Manufacturers. 10.5deg.myquestion is it had a weird sound.he said he paid 500 in 2010 will sell it 150.good deal or pass? ns2.cnolnic.com, Registrant Contact: They got me dont let them get you. If scarce U.S. resources are not used to protect a companies profits, at some point, it will become more cost efficient to manufacture in the U.S., which eliminates the counterfeit problem, and helps our domestic economy. RockBottomGolf.com has over a 99.8% customer approval rating between all the marketplaces they sell on and market in. But are there dealers Chinese? Law enforcement will most likely lead to a deadend. This is when a new model is launched the quality retailers heavily discount the out going model. Dear sir, it is an eBay store with the name Golf Mart. They seem ligit as they have been cited in Golf Digest but I did not know how they compared to the bigger names in golf. Have read reviews of this site and some seem to have had bad customer service. BUYER BEWARE!!!!! I was told they moved production to China in the last year. I am considering buying a driver from them. Anyway, all those sites lead back to a place named Hensol Golf Academy. I have been looking for a Taylormade Burner recently and was disappointed to miss out on a couple of ebay auctions, but after reading this think it was a blessing! where is your company based? Do they do steak knives? Of course the set is over a year old. Are you sure they are a rip off / fake? Received the item but not too sure of the authenticity. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! would like to know if wallys discount golf sells authentic or fake clubs, As much as i am delighted that i know a bit more about fake clubs out there.. it sure is scary. If so, was it real? If the online stores were TRULY getting their products from the companies, then the prices of these golf balls should be low and updated to the latest inventory. Hi All, great discussion. I had demoed the real thing and it was like night and day. I noticed yesterday the shipment started in China so I email them and asked if they were legitimate PING clubs or counterfeits. I get ads from apparently dependable retailers (ie: Golfsmith, TGW, Edwin Watts) for outdated clubs that are lower in cost than the newest offerings. They have everything made in China because its cheap!! Me13:21:23 Hi PeterTGW.com is legit. Ive fallen for this kind of thing as well and to my cost. If we take the money from the companies pockets here then well lose all that R&D money. Lifes too short to quibble over little stuff! Expires on: 21-Mar-14 The safest way I see it would be to spend a few bucks more and get the $1300 clubs instead of paying $250 and having them be counterfeit. If I am not mistaken, the initial R( fairway woods were stell and they are getting ready to put a titanium fairway wood. They figure it will make it look more authentic I suppose. They sure look legit! I do have 2 questions for you if you do not mind. Obviously there's some profit in faking them. Address : 10821 S. Ridgeway Its another mass produced Chinese fake ripoff promise them anything website. dennis just bought the same irons you are talking about ping g15 from golfleading.com Because its wrong for the OEMs to do this. Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them, Hi golf spy, First ask yourself what is tour issued if such a thing exists. Good spotting Gary. http://www.golfrealdeal.com. that is not my problem,just your thought It says they get sent from essex, england and not china, but not sure if there fake? Im just looking for a good deal so could u give me a list of good uk based sites or if I bought from the states like hurrican golf would I have to pay import duty on them. Link follows. If you purchace clubs online just make sure you use paypal. Thanks. Thankfully I didnt spend a fortune. I repeat; YOU CANNOT BUY GOLF CLUBS STRAIGHT FROM THE FACTORY., IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!!. The more clubs they can get out on the market, means their brand has a larger market share. When I received them, they looked beautiful, in fact, the clubs say made in China assembled in USA. Milling marks are much more pronounced on the counterfeit. I bought some Ping G25s and while the shafts (TFC 360 graphite) and grips looked ok, the heads had a plastic covered piece of grey foam where the CTP should be (Tungsten insert). They also have x 22s for 399.00. Too cheap to be genuine and no postal or contact. Its up to you but if it were me Id steer clear of them. Hi guys.Im looking into buying a set of Titleist Ap2 irons with precision shaft 5.5.Im looking at this site http://www.discountsgolfclubs.com and they are on offer for $350 free of charge delivery.Clearly they are counterfiets,are they? One thing Ive noticed while trawling different sites is that some of the ones with the To Good To Be True offers seem to have very similar web page designs to other ify sites, or when you click on a product you are redirected to another web site.So these may well be other indications of dodgy sites. They obviously have to come through unauthorised channels. Throughout the site you can see very poor grammer and use of the English language as we speak is not quite right. A few years ago we bought a Canon camera from a website and googled it afterwards and found there were a lot of complaints about the products and dealing with the seller. Who cares if it is a Nike, Wilson, or a club that says XXX from planet Venus. Nick, Admin Street3: Organization : Citra Joe The real Mizuno does not sell heads only. I think this thread has caused as much hysteria as information. They are praying on suckers who type into their Google search engine words like golf clubs, bargain, discount, wholesale, wharehouse, online, rockbottom, cheap, super cheap, extra super cheap, really extra super cheap.. You have got to be joking about golfonlinewholesale.com. I still use Ebay on golf items but instead of buying clubs, I started buying golf gift cards. Go to a legit store and pay the price to get what you want and dont end up with a $180.00 paperweight. The world wide web is a jungle of no-names, no-faces where thieves and counterfeiters thrive and prosper at the expense of gullible suckers like yourself. I thought they would have said the clubs are all fake and that they had made up the serials numbers. The colouring was darker than the original, there was no alignment do on the head, the besel weight screw did not have the red dot, the hosel was a different colour and to top it off, when tightening the screw that attaches the head, instead of hearing that click to know its on correctly, the screw snapped. The sad part is I have actually sold a club I really did win in a raffle during a big scramble tournament. What an A$$. They are the real deal. Buying from US retailer is probably best bet. unfortunate;y they would come back under another name however when i contacted google they removed these immediately and activity on adwords has been greatly reduced, Someone tell me if they think this website is fake. The clubs are shown on Taylormades website if you look under the Taylormade Japan. from major retailres (hence no accounts with the OEMs). Looks like Im just another victim of fraud. IP History: 2 changes on 3 unique name servers over 2 years. Counterfeit Ping G15 Hybrid. Finding: the set is genuine ( this is my 5th callaway set and I know the products well ) and would say, Empire Golf is professional and sells genuine products. Bill Street2: And thanks for speaking up to infom others about these scammers! Has anyone used this site they say they ship from usa but still not sure if the clubs are fake. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Join the Titleist Golf Ball Testing Team. Other than that, it is tough to tell from photos (although the FORGED stamp/mark on hosel looks pretty bad on a few of the copies). You guys really have to open your eyes. Part-Time. Your comments are ill-founded and clearly unqualified. My concern is that after researching the product, I found that the price of Royal Precision steel shafts for the 6-SW alone is a bit more then the $120 for the 18 piece set w/ bag. http://www.mygolfpurchase.com, prices are extremely cheap and the person you can talk to can barely speak english, suspect the clubs are fake so beware everyone! Today I refused the pkg and I will refute any charges he may apply. The reason to use a softer metal like 1018 is first and foremost to save money but to also allow it to be formed using an outdated or weakened forging press. every time I try ask about the clubs and were they are made you end the conversation? (That should have been his first clue). Nick. Whats with this Suno discount wholesale golf store. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. So Ebay traders that dont operate from a shop as well, cannoit get their brands to sell. Also these guys will post fake blogs saying they are legit. Right on Brian! First Look: Miura + LinkSoul Color Theory 4-piece Iron Set The word Forged is written in a much thinner font. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness. Prices are really low and was debating purchasing the Ping G20 irons but worried whether there fakes or not, Warning for http://www.hotgolfuk.com! Miura Golf - Irons Irons Exceeding every standard, not just the industry's Forging that Feels Different The performance of every iron is determined by features such as weight, size, center of gravity, and bounce, meaning that constructing a consistent and reliable club head is paramount. Do not deal with sunogolf. Foothills Golf Club is excited to announce the exceptional career opportunity of Accounting Assistant. P.S. It wasnt until I checked the Contact us info that I found it was in China. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 2 years. Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 I could be another gullible stooge. Kinda where I was leaning anyway, as they have good prices, but not stupidly good prices. Miura's newest irons are designed for mid- to high-handicap golfers. I wish we could buy American made equipment, but that new Taylor Made driver you want? I just bought a set of clubs off the same guy and am worriedI ordered them and havent yet received them. A. I consider these to be authentic. Are they legit? I am thinking of placing an order for a Ping K15 on luckygolf18.com, the price seems too good to be true. Can anyone help say if these are fake? The only loss you will suffer is you wont be able to wave that name brand club around for all to see. Callaway told me my supposed FT-IZ is made out of piece of metal. I 19:47:00, Sir,our clubs are not 100% original but would perform the same. but TM doesnt confirm serial no. Why? This is where the majority of the shadiness begins. As for clones, they are what they are, inexpensive and good for the beginner or the player that does not or can not pay the big bucks for TaylorMade, Ping, etc. our greed, is what makes these crooks successful. Just my opinion. I am specifically looking at eBay listings (Yes, I know that the only way to guarantee authenticity is to buy new from an authorized dealer), > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Miura-K-grind-Forged-1957-wedge-set-52-56-and-60-/254191423140?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true. greenlight, May 18, 2019 in Japanese and Non-US. Hey check on my blog for beginning golfers. Is the company real and did anubody bought any golf equipment from them. CB201 in 3-5 Iron and Retro Blades in 6-PW. I 00:16:28 These clubs look so realistic, but perform so poorly. Tour issue clubs have a serial number that starts with a T. www.taylormadegolf.com
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