Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. Peter Biello: Let's go to Mike in Epping. And there's there's no evidence of that cat's movement in that entire you know 12 hundred miles stretch of its journey. Post your sightings and NH photos here! The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came.
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. I wasn't employed as biologists at the time of a situation that's been reported but so I started digging into this report and spoke with another wildlife biologist with the agency and said Do you know anything about this. A lot of times. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. And they were using all the habitat. I think as Pat was saying you know 35 to 50 pounds on a male be reasonable range whereas mountain lions you're up to 100 110 maybe even 130 pounds on a big male. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. I mean it wasn't your idea. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. 1957. We'll also hear your stories if you have them again. All of that remains unanswered but it is an extremely interesting question. You've got you've got biologists right who are trying to make their make their way in the world make a career if you are the biologists who confirmed a sighting of mountain lions in the state that would be very good for you like you would be all over the news. m from a weed family Automotive on store Street in Concord is serving the Concord area families automotive needs since 1995. 1957. You know one of the the biggest questions I have about that is it points to how much we don't know and if in fact we don't know enough. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. Through DNA they approximate area in the United States or North America where I was born. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or
[email protected] to request an observation report form. List of Mountains in New Hampshire is a general list of mountains in New Hampshire, with elevation.This list includes many mountains in the White Mountains range that covers about a quarter of the state, as well as mountains outside of that range.. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in.
Gap Mountain Lions Club Let's look for other evidence. Think you've seen a mountain lion. Any sense of of whether or not mountain lions are sort of wary of more population dense areas like like the one he was describing Rick. We'll hear more about the mountain lions impact and the role it plays in the ecosystem. Yes.
Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube They sent it already. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. Sam Evans-Brown: So Tim so this cat's been been referenced a couple of times I think we should talk about it specifically lay the whole story out for folks who haven't heard the story because it's actually I think really indicative of a lot of stuff for talking about. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. The unheralded hero of Apollo John Hubble the man who knew the way to the moon. Copyright New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.An official New Hampshire government website. But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? Have you seen one. And the cougar embodies that. Why are there so many false positives? Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. Something along those lines. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. About Us Media Kit Calendar of Events Volunteer Visit Learn Events Membership Support Your Visit BUY TICKETS Know Before You Go Directions and Information Our Animals Live Animal Exhibit Trail Hours and Admission Calendar of Events The book MAMMAL TRACKS & SIGN by Mark Elbroch has pictures of mountain lion scat found at a multiple beaver kill. Thank you. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. Yes. And those are not the same things. Love hearing these stories. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Rick your thoughts. But if you were to get Western dispersing mountain lions just would just sort of expanding into New Hampshire. Have you heard stories do you have questions about the mountain line. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. The big cat has been extinct at least the eastern mountain lion has been extinct here since the mid 80s hundreds. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. Let us know your story and share your photos. Russ, from Sandwich (and Bedford) asks: In Sandwich New Hampshire, everybody has a story about seeing a mountain lion. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago.
Can you tell us about that story. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. So what a neat experience. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. Well thanks for sharing. New Hampshire Public Radio | He said matter of fact I do. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted.
Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center Mike thanks for your call. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam.. I'm Peter Biello. So they're scary. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. So for me as a person who's had the Bobcats right off my grits similar carries sticks to a bobcat The Long Tail obviously very different but those facial markings were overlapping for me. So nowadays we think of this in the Northeast as crazy stuff that people have a mountain lion as a pet. Current conditions in New Hampshire would support a mountain lion, according to Tate, as forests have returned, allowing for prey species to become more prevalent. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. However, as far as I can tell theres no Deep State Conspiracy to cover up a breeding population of cougars in the Granite State. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. We'll push great photos to the front page. I just don't understand the mechanism for how that would happen. 19 And so. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Women control our lives. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at
[email protected]. Is this kind of a typical story. I have no doubt that there are mountain lion roaming New Hampshire. I really really enjoyed listening to this program so thank you all very much. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. Yes and you want to share what you learned. Thanks for calling. 235 or
[email protected]. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? It doesn't happen as much anymore. 50 feet above the most. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. So one thing I'll add. Mountain lions (especially males) have incredibly large ranges that they defend from rivals. Its distinctive featurethe one that sets it apart from other North American wild catsis its tail, which is thick and often as long as its body. Absolutely. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals.
Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not Can you look into this picture. NH Fish and Game relies on physical evidence to answer questions about the presence or absence of mountain lion in the state. I mean that so many of them are false sightings we. So and so the idea that they can follow up on every individual sighting is just crazy right. And I have to use that word allegedly because there is so much dispute about what people see and what they actually see. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. Fish and Wildlife Service decided all of the cougars, pumas, and mountain lions in the country are actually the same species, and that species hasnt had a breeding population anywhere near the Northeast for at least 70 years. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. No doubt in my mind it was. Infinite Scroll Enabled. I found a second scat scent both to him. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. Peter Biello: Ok. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting.
New Hampshire's Mountain Lions | NH Wildlife It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. I saw that had this giant the bobcat had this giant sweeping which is John Bobcat don't have big sweeping tails. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. 44-H Links. Here she is talking about how to identify a mountain lion. Lions Clubs Int'l Links: LionNet NH Links 2011 -2012 . And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. Tim Yeah. Well they are the same. If you have them email exchange at an HP board or give us a call to tell us your story. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. In fact, Pat Tate concedes that hes been told of sightings from folks that he considers to be very credible, very woods savvypeople who know what a bobcat looks likebut those folks have never snapped a good photo or found a good track. You saw what you saw. Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could.
Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. We are the second most-forested state in the country, and those forests can be impenetrable snarls (part of why the Northeast is notoriously a difficult place to hunt deer), and while there are people in a lot of those woods, because the cats have been absent for a few generations now, most of those people dont know what a cougar scrape or latrine look and smell like. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. The way that we define species has undergone a revolution with the advent of DNA testing. We have evidence and as biologists we would find it quite exciting to find that evidence of one in the state. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. Mountain lions leave a lot of sign. N.H. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. So I will just say this is a big reason why there have not been confirmed sightings I think is that the evidence required first. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. Pelosi story here we go. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Course like Sue said you have to see it and it's not always that visible. Caller: I have yeah. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. But Absence of Evidence Is Not Evidence of Absence, Right? Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. So there's even debate about that very subject. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. That's too big for Bobcat. Part II. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. And really whenever you hear tiny code and long rope like tale it's kind of hard to pin this sighting on any other creature rather than an outline or just nothing else really matches that description. Its actually fairly reasonable to believe that mountain lions do, at least, pass through occasionally. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. From involving members in projects as local as cleaning up an area park or as far-reaching as bringing sight to the world's blind, Lions clubs have always . Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. Peter Biello: Wow. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. How far were you from this cat. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. Well within there. Join as a $8 per month sustainer and get our brand-new owl umbrella! Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. They don't know the direction they're going.
Ask Sam: Why Won't New Hampshire Admit There Are Mountain Lions Here We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. There was no sign of it. Rick van de Poll: Well I didn't. 44-N Links. Thanks very much. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. About Lions. Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Rick van de Poll: Yes. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. So. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. So you want identifiable backgrounds. Let's go now to to Kyle in Keene I believe Kyle is this Kyle Jarvis from the Keene Sentinel a former reporter and former reporter. John. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. Thank you very much for that story really appreciate it. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. You know interactions are pretty unusual. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. So give us a call now. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas.